DMIS S I R Entry

Dimensional Measuring Interface Standard
Standard Improvement Request

SIR No.
97-52
DMIS Release
3.0
SIR Type
Error
Severity
Wrong Result / Interaction
Status
Resolved
Date Submitted
August 12 1997
Date Validated
August 12 1997
Date In Process

Date Referred

Date Vote Pending

Date Closed
April 1 1998
Action
Clarifications
Submitted By
Thomas Kramer
NIST
Room B-124, Bldg. 220
Gaithersburg MD 20899
USA
Phone: (301)975-3518
Fax: (301)990-9688
kramer@cme.nist.gov

Problem Topic
POL: Clarification on use of polar coords

Problem Description
The treatment of "polar" coordinates is difficult and awkward, and may be incorrect, depending on what the documentation, which is unclear, means.

The statement which causes the problem appears on page 35 as a note. The same statement (or variants of it) appears also on pages 47, 56, 60, 65, 67, 69, 208, and probably many other places. The statement on page 35 reads:

"The x,y,z point coordinates and i,j,k vectors are given relative to the active part coordinate system. The r and a values are also given relative to the active part coordinate system. The h value is the perpendicular distance of the point from the WKPLAN."

This could be taken to mean that the r and a values are always given in the XY plane of the active part coordinate system. If this is the case, however, polar coordinates fail when the WKPLAN is the YZ or XZ plane; in those cases, the polar coordinates of a point describe a line, not a point, and the h value is determined by the r and a values.

Since the first possible interpretation leads to an unusable system, I take it that the interpretation is incorrect.

A second interpretation is that the quoted statement means:

"The x,y,z point coordinates and i,j,k vectors are given relative to the active part coordinate system. The r and a values are given relative to the active WKPLAN of the active part coordinate system. The h value is the perpendicular distance of the point from the WKPLAN."

This second interpretation is consistent with the final paragraphs of page 33. The second interpretation also gives a workable coordinate system.

If the second interpretation is correct, the wording should be changed as shown every place the statement appears.

If the second statement is correct, however, it is necessary to record both the active coordinate system and the active WKPLAN when a feature is defined in order to have a full description of what is intended.

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Related SIRs
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Suggested Resolution
I would prefer having "polar" coordinates be standard mathematical cylindrical coordinates using r and a in the XY plane of the active part coordinate system and using z (not h) of the active part coordinate system. With this method, it would be irrelevant which plane is the active WKPLAN.

My second choice would be to have the wording of the note changed (everywhere it appears) as shown above.

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Resolution

Warning!!

The following statement is only a resolution to a Standard Improvement Request (SIR) and is NOT part of the current DMIS standard, nor is it guaranteed to become part of the next revision of the DMIS standard even if voted and accepted by the DMIS National Standards Committee. This resolution is tentative because it may not be incorporated into the next version of the standard, it could be changed prior to the next release, or it could be changed as the result of the "public review and comment" period required for the next version of the standard. If you choose to use this tentative resolution, you do so at your own risk since at this time it is not part of the DMIS standard.

The second interpretation (above) is correct. No change to text as suggested.

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