DMIS S I R Entry

Dimensional Measuring Interface Standard
Standard Improvement Request

SIR No.
97-56
DMIS Release
3.0
SIR Type
Enhancement
Severity
Other
Status
Resolved
Date Submitted
August 13 1997
Date Validated
August 13 1997
Date In Process

Date Referred
April 1 1998
Date Vote Pending
August 20 1998
Date Closed
August 20 1998
Action
Clarifications
Submitted By
Thomas Kramer
NIST
Room B-124, Bldg. 220
Gaithersburg MD 20899
USA
Phone: (301)975-3518
Fax: (301)990-9688
kramer@cme.nist.gov

Problem Topic
DATSET: Reference to datums

Problem Description
Note: This is the first of four SIRs relating to DATSET on pages 113 and 114. I will also have several comments on DATSET on pages 17 - 19.

DATSET allows only three references to datums. This seems unnecessarily restrictive, since up to five datums might be used. For example, two lines could be used to establish the directions of the principal and secondary axes, and three points could be used to establish the coordinates of the origin.

References
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Related SIRs
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Suggested Resolution
Rethink DATSET and rewrite it.

To allow references to five datums, the input format of DATSET might be changed to:

D(label)=DATSET/var_1

Where: var_1 can be: MCS
or: var_2,var_3

var_2 can be: var_4,var_5
or: var_4,var_6
or: var_5,var_4
or: var_5,var_6
or: var_6,var_4
or: var_6,var_5

var_3 can be: XORIG,DAT(o1),YORIG,DAT(o2),ZORIG,DAT(o3)

var_4 can be: XDIR,DAT(d1)
or: -XDIR,DAT(d1)

var_5 can be: YDIR,DAT(d2)
or: -YDIR,DAT(d2)

var_6 can be: ZDIR,DAT(d3)
or: -ZDIR,DAT(d3)

The datums d1, d2, and d3 must be different from each other. The datums o1, o2, and o3 may be the same as each other (and may be the same as d1, d2, or d3) or may be different.

This intentionally does not allow for incompletely specified DATSETs.

Using this method, to specify a coordinate system from three planes, for example, the normal to one plane can be made the principal axis direction, and the normal to another plane can be used to establish the direction of the secondary axis. The point at the intersection of the three planes can be defined and used to set the origin.

This SIR has been referred to the Enhancements Subcommittee for resolution.

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Resolution

Warning!!

The following statement is only a resolution to a Standard Improvement Request (SIR) and is NOT part of the current DMIS standard, nor is it guaranteed to become part of the next revision of the DMIS standard even if voted and accepted by the DMIS National Standards Committee. This resolution is tentative because it may not be incorporated into the next version of the standard, it could be changed prior to the next release, or it could be changed as the result of the "public review and comment" period required for the next version of the standard. If you choose to use this tentative resolution, you do so at your own risk since at this time it is not part of the DMIS standard.

Resolved per 8/98 DNSC Meeting Oak Ridge, TN.
Rejected
This can be accomplished with two or more translates.
Furthermore, current tolerance standards (ASME Y14.5M) does not permit more than 3 datum features for a tolerance feature control frame.

Attachments
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Notes

Added by Mike Holloway, hkm@ornl.gov on 7/31/1998

No reference was found to this SIR in any meeting minutes.

DATSET was meant to convey the association between datums on a part drawing (ANSI Y14.5) and the coordinate system used for measuring and locating the features. GD&T allows up to 3 datums to be defined (primary, secondary, and tertiary). The DATSET statement is there to associate the coordinate system axes and origin with the drawing datums. Do we want to break from this?

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